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Re: [Fwd: RE: Kremen VS Arin Antitrust Lawsuit - Anyone have feedback?]

  • From: Joe Abley
  • Date: Mon Sep 11 14:44:31 2006

On 11-Sep-2006, at 13:44, Chris Jester wrote:

Also, what about ARINS hardcore attitude making it near impossible
to aquire ip space, even when you justify it's use? I have had
nightmares myself as well as MANY of my collegues share similar experiences.
I have talked to many people who have not taken the time to read the appropriate policy documents or supply adequate documentation who have had terrible difficulty getting resources assigned from all the RIRs, not just ARIN.

I have never yet met anybody who has followed the procedures (and who meets the criteria within the policy) who hasn't received exactly the resources they asked for. Actually, that's not true -- I know of several people who have received more than they asked for, since the RIRs in question noticed that the original request contained sufficient justification for a larger allocation.

Perhaps by "ARINS [sic] hardcore attitude" you mean their insistence that the policy be followed? My opinion on that is "Good Work, ARIN".

While my experience is mainly with APNIC and ARIN, it's not obvious to me that the other RIRs are substantially more difficult to deal with.

I am having an issue right now with a UNIVERSITY in Mexico tryin to get
ip's from the mexican counterpart. Why is it that they involve lawyers,
ask you all your customers names and etc...
You might advise the university in question to seek the help of someone who has actually read the policy documents (or to read them themselves -- the ARIN number resource policy manual, for example, is written in very straightforward language).


Joe