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RE: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

  • From: Fergie
  • Date: Thu Aug 03 18:56:20 2006

I've got news for you.

To impact the miscreant's bottom-line, then it will take:

A) Technology, and;
B) Manpower

It will also take:

C) Better cooperative efforts.

- ferg

-- "Bora Akyol" <[email protected]> wrote:


This is not a problem we can solve by adding:

a) technology (other than completely dumping the OS(s) that make this
b) manpower 

I think it can be solved by reducing the margins in the miscreant
business line
or ideally having it have negative margins.

> I would suggest more specific attention by service providers 
> specifically, and everyone in general, perhaps with more 
> "abuse services" -related tracks at meetings like NANOG. :-)
> Or something along those lines...

I think better to focus on the economics of the business as part of the
abuse track.

"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
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