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----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Fergie" <[email protected]> > >mentioned haven't worked at all. I'm just saying that > there >has to be a better way than police-type actions on > a global >scale. Also, I'm sure many more smart people > Personally, I think there is wiggle-room between what Gadi > surmises (persoanlly, I think he is playing Devil's > advocate), what everyone else may surmise as an effort > into nothingness, and what Vixie professes (if anyone > bothered to read what he forwarded -- I did, and very much > agree). I read it all carefully. Twice. I'm not taking sides here. Please don't put me in that position. I'm only beating a point to death. Common NANOG futility. You know the deal... :-) > I actually think there is _a_lot_ which can be, and should > be, done. What? That's what I'm trying to find out, but I'm not as smart as most, so I can only point out the things that I believe definitely won't work and why I think that. Hopefully by the application of flame to my butt by smart people for saying what I do will spark some thought toward the goal. > I actually think there is _a_lot_ which can be, and should > be, done. > > Turning a blind eye is unnacceptable, and right now, ISP's > are in the spotlight w.r.t. doing just that: > There is _major_ room for improvement, so I guess the > relevant question becomes: Are people part of the problem > or part of the solution? > > What's the measuring stick? I get a 1984-like mgmtspeak feeling here. I don't know how to respond except with this attempt (in order): what are some suggestions for the major improvement, people are both the problem and the solution (as in everything) and the measuring stick is a noticable decline in the nefarious deeds on the public internet. scott
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