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Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

  • From: Patrick W. Gilmore
  • Date: Tue Jul 11 07:40:04 2006


On Jul 11, 2006, at 3:09 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:


On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 11:19:51PM -0700,
 Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote
 a message of 16 lines which said:

There's a big difference, of course, between INTENTIONALLY pointing
your computers at DNS servers that do this kind of thing, and having
it done for you without your knowledge and/or consent.

As Steven Bellovin pointed out, most OpenDNS users will not choose it: it will be choosen for them by their corporate IT department or by their Internet access provider.

So?


DNSBLs are bad because most users won't choose it, it will be chosen for them.

PPPoE is bad because most users won't choose it, it will be chosen for them.

IP is bad because most users won't choose it, it will be chosen for them.


Choice still exists. People who abdicate their choice, either through laziness, ignorance, other willful choices (e.g. employment), etc., are still making a choice. You cannot say something is horrible because they do not check every individual computer that might in some way be affected.


Put another way, if you run a large network, I guarantee you make choices every day that affect your users. Do you check with each one of them?

I didn't think so.

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TTFN,
patrick