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Re: Black Frog - the botnets keep coming

  • From: Fergie
  • Date: Sat May 27 18:00:34 2006

Sorry, this is not acceptable, regardless of national boundaries.

And it will be fought against, regardless of where it originates,
or resides. Always.

I do not condone collateral damage strategies in this regard, but
suggesting that a "wild, wild west" Internet is something that will
be a contimuum -- it cannot be, and will not be.

As such, I also do not condone such activities as Blue/Black Frog
suggest, as it is completely contrary to established practices of
mitigation (and removal).

- ferg

p.s. Now if we could only get the registries onboard...

-- "Alexei Roudnev" <[email protected]> wrote:

Internet IS a wild west. You should live with it. It will never be _quet,
dead american's residential area, where dogs do not bark and kids do not
play themself on streets in age of 8 (normal dogs bark, and normal kids
often play themself when they are 8)_.

It is the whole WORLD, not one country.

So, we must live with it, and do not hope, that it will have numerous _speed
tickets_ and _police officers_ (as 90% of the people live every day, making
their own decisions and protecting themselves.

It is, in fact, a very effectiv way to stop spammers. But it definitely
became a dangerous DDOS service. So - learn how to live with it, it's the
only choice. (Make sure, that no single protocol or botnet can kill the
whole network or deplete all resources, for example).


"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
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