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On Fri, 26 May 2006, Rick Wesson wrote: > > > I am saying I am reading the OARC comments and this is sort of what > > it fees like. As much as Gadi seems to appropriate others credit, > > Randy Vaugh and him have been doing this work for some time and > > deserves some credit so I'd say "have you spoken to them about how > > to make their report better" yet instead of "create more". > > Yes, we have worked with Gati and Randy Vaugh; infact randy helped me > out today; thanks randy! > > There is a difference in how Randy/Gati collect data and how we collect > data. The stuff we publish are from numerous dns based realtime > blacklists and spam traps we run. Other folks black-hole botnets and > capture data. > > We both come up with a dataset that overlaps but we don't yet know by > how much. So our data is another view using a different methodology and > isn't supposed to be "better" but confirming of where the problem is and > estimates of its magnitude. The more we know, the better. I believe the time for action has come and gone, but I was not born a pessimist. :) If the first step is to de-"classify" what's public so that people are aware of what's going on, I say bring it on. Great work, Rick. Beer is on me this defcon. Gadi. > > > -rick > >
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