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Re: Multi ISP DDOS

  • From: william(at)
  • Date: Fri May 05 10:57:07 2006

On Thu, 4 May 2006, Martin Hannigan wrote:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news to spammers :) but based on
bluesecurity's tactics I can make a guess about attitude of their
people and its such that DoS attack on them will only cause them
more determination to continue and I suspect to majority of their users as well (and publicity is also likely to bring them more users).

Moving the site to TypePad was incorrect way of dealing with attack
though; but its actually not the first time I've heard of the site
using a blog as temporary page while their primary site is down due
to DoS... - some education on what blogs are good for is in order.
But as it is looks like bluesecurity is moving to prolexic which
claim to deal with just such situations.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news to BS' VC's, but BS moving their
DNS to UltraDNS and hosting to Prolexic was likely not part of the business
plan. "They ain't cheap". The spammers can now theoretically force them
to spend all time and all their money responding to attacks.
You know quite well that if they continue dos for too long law-enforcement
would finally get interested... Now I really don't know UDNS and Prolexic
prices but I have a feeling those hosting fees would be far from being
their biggest expense. So I have to disagree with you that is what could
bring them down, though I agree that as usual a lot depends on if their
VCs want all this going - I just don't think hosting fees will be major
reason for such a decision (unless BS self-funded which I doubt).

The killer here is that they asked a lot of people a year ago whether this was a good idea and everyone said no.
Yep and they were all right.

Spammers: 2 Blue Security: 0
NANOG: -2 (vigilante time sink)
Its more like:
Spammers: -2  Blue Security: -1  Nanog: 0 (talk is cheap but results are...)

William Leibzon
Elan Networks
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