North American Network Operators Group

Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical

Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism

  • From: Alexei Roudnev
  • Date: Wed Apr 12 04:18:47 2006

Hmm, if some idiot wrote my NTP IP into his hardware, I just stop to monitor
my NTP and make sure that it have few hours of error in time. No one require
me to CLAIM that I set up wrong time, BUT no one can require me to maintain
correct time just because some idiots use my server.

The same in this case - instead of long claiming, complaining and so on they
could just set up wrong time (and never claim that they did it - just _oo,
we have a wrong time.. Thanks, but we do not maintain this NTP server and we
cannot change anything on this server so we cannot correct it_ - and problem
could be solved forever. And even could maintain different NTP translation
fro their customers. Just again, no one can prohibit it, even in USA. Just
_DO NOT CLAIM_ that it was intentionally.

Here is a difference  - _coffee is hot, someone's server is brokn, if
'Ivan||Paul||Lisa' have a CD he/she always can make a copy,
fire can burn, dog can bite_ - everyone should know it; if he do not know,
it's his personal problems, not someone's liability. Kids MUST learn such
things when they are young. It is COMMON SENSE.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <[email protected]>
To: "Alexei Roudnev" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; "John Dupuy" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism

> <law professor> I'd really suggest that readers confirm this claim (that
> intentional sending of false data with a malicious purpose is perfectly
> acceptable) with a local lawyer before trying it at home or at work.</law
> professor>
> I also bet that the claim of widespread acceptability would fail badly if
> we weigh countries by population.  Or even connectivity.
> Not to mention the fact that your packets might stray across borders
> sometimes.
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006, Alexei Roudnev wrote:
> >
> > It's legal to have broken NTP server in ANY country, and it's legal in
> > (by number) countries to send counter-attack (except USA as usual, where
> > lawyers want to get their money and so do not allow people to
> >
> -- 
>   Personal Blog:
> A. Michael Froomkin   |    Professor of Law    |   [email protected]
> U. Miami School of Law, P.O. Box 248087, Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA
> +1 (305) 284-4285  |  +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax)  |
>                         -->It's warm here.<--