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Re: IP ranges, re- announcing 'PA space' via BGP, etc

  • From: Patrick W. Gilmore
  • Date: Fri Apr 07 07:04:36 2006

On Apr 7, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Alexander Koch wrote:

I see very often that customers in the US send morespecs all
over the place, deaggregate whole /14s or such scary crap,
ask us to accept random stuff out of 4/8 and 8/8 (L3 space)
by example.

I am practically asking what is (if any) the normal way for
any of this. I am working by the principle that not everything
I could do I should do, especially not right away. Is there
any accepted procedure / policy for anyone to a) announce and
b) accept (the transit supplier) and have that sanctioned
formally? Maybe nobody cares, then tell me. ;-)
There is a lot of "nobody cares", but I'm not sure that accounts for everything you see.

Can you give us some examples so us "dumb Americans" can more precisely explain the problem? :)

Coming from Europe where pretty much everyone is RIPE LIR and
has its own /21 at the least I might not see the problem that
allegedly some (many) US ISPs do have. Enlighten me.

(And, no, I do not fall for the urban legend that RIPE or ARIN
are by default evil, clearly not. I do have real- life
experience that whenever you can rightfully justify even large
IP assignments you do get it.)
What if you try to justify small assignments?