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Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
Thus spake "Daniel Golding" <[email protected]>
Please quantify the cost of not being able to multihome your mission-critical business. Compare to the cost of obtaining an IPv4 PI block. Both are likely to exceed the possible revenue for small businesses at some point not too far off.On 3/6/06 10:25 AM, "Stephen Sprunk" <[email protected]> wrote:There will be a average cost per host to transition from v4 to v6. When theSo, unless there's policy change, most end-user orgs will have no choice but to pay the market rate for IPv4 addresses. Spot markets are good when demand is elastic, but we're faced with a market that has growing inelastic demand that will outstrip fixed supply in a decade. Capitalism doesn't handle that well.
IPv6 is not a replacement for IPv4 today; it's less attractive for a number of reasons, and running out of IPv4 addresses will only solve one (maybe two) of the problems.
That'd be interesting to see, but there's just too many variables we don't (and can't) have numbers for yet. Maybe it'd be a useful exercise to at least identify what needs to be quantified...Many organizations wont even look at this without an ROI. Folks who want to see v6 adopted would be well advised to support the creation of a hard ROI through these means.
That would require the RIRs to admit that IP addresses are marketable commodities, which is something that, to date, they have refused to do.ARIN (and/or RIPE, APNIC) should really use a bit of their budget surplus to provide a few grants to economics professors who are experts in commodity market issues. As engineers, we grope in the dark concerning fairly well established scientific principles we are unfamiliar with. Its like reinventing the wheel. :(
Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart
CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves with
K5SSS smart people who disagree with them." --Aaron Sorkin