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Re: Shim6 vs PI addressing

  • From: Stephen Sprunk
  • Date: Fri Mar 03 12:55:48 2006

Thus spake "Todd Vierling" <[email protected]>
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

3. Route processing and FIB lookups scale worse than linear

6. Moore can't go on forever, there are physical limitations
The funny part:  Those on this list who have cited Moore's Law don't
seem to have an understanding that it does not directly apply to
custom routing logic (since general-purpose CPUs are no longer fast
enough to do the lookups on the high end).  In addition, GP CPUs
are no longer scaling exponentially, but rather closer to quadratically
and approaching linear.

In short, Moore's Law is dying,
Moore's Law says nothing about performance; it only refers to transistor densities. In fact, current CPUs are still following the predicted curve, but they're turning fewer and fewer of those transistors into actual performance improvements. That's what the move to dual-core is about: finding more productive ways to use the wealth transistors now available.

However, I agree that custom logic for routers does not necessarily follow the same curve; the volume is still low enough that vendors can't (or don't) use the best processes available. Heck, even the best available main CPUs are several years behind what's available in the PC market (why ship a 2GHz CPU when you can ship a 500MHz one at ten times the price?).

and even if it weren't, it is not a valid argument for "let the swamp in".
One of the key attributes of the v4 swamp is that most orgs got more than one assignment (aka routing slot), often dozens to hundreds; the proposed policies for a "v6 swamp" do not allow that.

S

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