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On 3/2/06 7:57 AM, "Edward B. DREGER" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:07:33 +0000 >> From: [email protected] > > [ snip ] > >> Is there something inherently wrong with independent >> organizations deciding where to send their packets? > > 1. Many a transit seems to think so. > 2. Is there an inherent need? > 3. Is this DPA+sourceroute cocktail the best method? > What Eddy said and also: The designers of shim6 seem to live in a different network security world than I do. Even assuming that shim6 ever gets deployed, which is pretty close to complete fantasy, the threat of a massive TE botnet being used to control large amounts of Internet traffic is a serious threat to Internet stability. Right now, DDoS attacks from Botnets are bad enough. Think about what happens when they have source routing control. Shim6 is a non-starter. A critical mass of host OS's will not get their software upgraded to support this in the next 5 years - there isn't running code ANYWHERE. Time to stop screwing around. There is a tremendous amount of effort being wasted here arguing against it and even more so in the IETF, where time being wasted on shim6 could be better spent on a new IDR paradigm. Where is the IETF leadership? > > Eddy > -- > Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ > A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ > Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building > Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national > Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita > ________________________________________________________________________ > DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: > [email protected] -*- [email protected] -*- [email protected] > Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. > Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. -- Daniel Golding
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