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At 02:05 AM 2/6/2006, Nick Feamster wrote: Martin Hannigan wrote:Independent of ED, one should be cautious when designing routing protocols based on logistical and business assumptions (e.g., switching providers takes awhile, most business policies are vanilla peering, etc.).[ SNIP ]> If you are changing providers, which takesawhile anyway,That process seems to be getting quicker: http://www.equinix.com/prod_serv/network/ed.htmNOT an ISP product. I got some "can you elaborate" comments so please forgive my second response. What I thought I read was that you thought Equinix had an interesting play in a transitioning and provisioning strategy for ISP's. My answer, in short, was to say that I see it as more of an enterprise play because it's a managed service and the hardest part of provisioning is typically the order cycle. If you are an ISP, you are theoretically multi homed by definition and your providers are going to remain fairly stable (you hope) based on your own needs. Equinix direct is a bandwidth commodity in my mind. Anyone remember Invisible Hand (still in business, btw http://www.invisiblehand.net/) Equinix handles the software interaction and is the market maker. Customers appear to providers and providers can decide if they want to sell to customers. For example, if you show up at ED and need X gigs, a provider could opt out of the market because you are a highcap customer. In the end, the market maker gets a piece of the action from the provider and sends the "customer" a bill since it is theoretically the provider. I think there's a question about neutrality, but there are no more pure neutral colo houses so that is somewhat irrelevant unless it's completely bogus like selling interconnect network or something vs. the ILEC. In an environment like Equinix or S&D, you could attach to the public peering fabric and "make connections", and then if you need someone specific you can hope to get them on ED (in Equinixs case) without buying dedicated transit. In short, it's easy. With that said, I believe most ISP's would be better suited to overlapped service or TE'ing vs. using commodity markets for b/w, IMHO. Thanks, -M< Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574 Member of Technical Staff Network Operations [email protected]
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