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Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? [ & Re: cyber-redundancy ]

  • From: sgorman1
  • Date: Fri Jan 20 18:13:05 2006 
The difference being the financial system can use the knowledge to make themselves more resilient.

How does the bank customer use the information you listed to make themselves more resilient?

Further, the banks are a fairly trusted and well regulated group.

There are a good number of bank customers that are not good guys.

Is there a fear the banks will use provider information for malicious ends?

Is that the reason the providers will not give the information?

Could it be they do not want customers to know most of their SONET rings are collapsed?




----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Donelan <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, January 20, 2006 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? [ &   Re: cyber-redundancy ]

> 
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Frank Coluccio wrote:
> > To answer Sean Donelan's question, yes, enterprise customers 
> and/or their agents
> > _do _need to have specific information on the routes in which 
> their leased
> > facilities (and even dark fiber builds) are placed, ephemeral as 
> those data might
> > be at times due to SP outside plant churn. They need this data 
> in order to ensure
> > that they're not only getting the diversity/redundancy/separacy 
> that they're
> > paying for, but because of the more fundamental reason being 
> that it is the only
> > way they have to provide maximal assurances to stakeholders of 
> the organization's
> > survivability.
> 
> Is the same thing also true for customers of financial 
> institutions?  Why
> are financial institutions so reluctant to give details about the
> locations of their data centers, processing offices, money transport
> routes and security procedures to their customers?  Don't 
> customers of
> financial institutions have the same concerns about the survivability
> of the financial institutions as the financial institutions have about
> their suppliers?
> 
> Doesn't this just turn into Y2K all over again with every organization
> demanding guarantees and copies of data from every other organization?
>