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Re: the iab simplifies internet architecture!

  • From: Randy Bush
  • Date: Fri Nov 11 13:46:02 2005

> None that I have spoken with.
>> that's what a number of i* members have publicly stated is their
>> opinion of talking to us operators.

i imagine you speak with the one i was quoting rather often,
though you were not there when it was said.  i was.  ask
others who were there, pitsburgh ietf, a meeting between
ipv6 chairs, iesg members, rirs, and a few ops.  a current
member of the iab specifically said, and i quote again,
since you seem to have missed the rest of my paragraph,

    operators won't accept the h ratio because they don't 
    know what a logarithm is.

while the ietf mouths a lot of words about wanting to hear
from, and get participation from, operators, the actual
experience is pretty brutal. is from the
current issue of acm sigcomm's ccr, where aaron falk also
has a piece.  i play curmudgeon and he pollyanna.