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Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses

  • From: Patrick W. Gilmore
  • Date: Fri Nov 11 09:24:56 2005

On Nov 11, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Will Hargrave wrote:

Randy Bush wrote:

the only stuff that makes me feel at all safe is what mike hughes
of linx described, or something even stricter, but i bow to mike's
and folk wonder why the grown-ups use pnis for anything important.
Isn't this due to the fact their engineering scale is bigger? There's little point connecting to an IX fabric if you want to peer with 3 others and all of those at 10G. The assumption that big carriers don't join IXs because they're somehow unreliable or toy- like doesn't seem fair.
Who said "big carriers" don't join IXes? There are plenty of networks who have more traffic than some "teir ones" at IXes. Hell, RANDY has a presence at least one IX.

Many folk have the highest respect for the operational efficacy of membership organisations like the LINX, and that is borne out by their willingness to join and put traffic across the exchanges.
Apparently those folk are not 'grown-ups'. The 100+ Gbps passing over NAPs like AMS-IX and LINX are apparently just childish endeavors.

Or perhaps Randy is saying that Internet traffic in general is not "important"?