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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: classful routes redux
>>> Is AS reclaimation an option? We don't know how many 'dark' >>> (unadvertised) AS numbers are used as VPN IDs in 2547 contexts. >> do we care? i.e. does it affect the real public internet. are >> these not like 1918? > nope, they need to be unique... or they SHOULD BE unique (globally > unique). As more folks interconnect internally (business mergers, > partnerships, things such as this) there will be more clashes on 1918 > (raising the evil spectre that is NOT the AC-130, but in fact NAT) and ASN > clashes resulting in fragile internal networks needing an ASN swap-out... > which is devilishly hard so I've heard. (atleast on a large network) we either believe in private ip/asn space or we don't. if we do, then this asn usage falls under it. >> and how much money will lawers make off the ensuing riot? > lawYers will always make money. sorry. typing while dealing with remote server messes. > but I'm not sure that 'unadvertised' is the metric you want to > use here. 'unpaid' might be better. please see what we promised fnc when we formed arin, slide nine of <http://rip.psg.com/~randy/970414.fncac.pdf>. i think this is perceived as the social contract with the legacy community. and some old legacy dogs are pretty adamant about this, hi jis. and we have both a simple and a more complex compatible transition path to four byte asns. it's ip addresses where we have no compatible transition path. eye on doughnut and all that. randy
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