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  • From: Peter Dambier
  • Date: Mon Oct 24 08:41:26 2005

Sabri Berisha wrote:
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 04:07:03PM -0500, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:

Peter Dambier did post nonsense. In fact, it was total nonsense since
the AMS-IX is not present in any KPN datacentre, *and* it is impossible
for end-hosts to connect to the AMS-IX directly.

Part of the traceroutes between me and the system I was talking of:

 6 (  18.334 ms   22.725 ms   33.803 ms
 4 (  145.264 ms   152.212 ms   160.623 ms

 5 (  14.737 ms   13.115 ms   11.501 ms
 5 (  169.072 ms   176.623 ms   184.463 ms

 4  19.577 ms   17.808 ms   16.000 ms
 6  194.043 ms   201.762 ms   209.455 ms

 3  21.561 ms   21.339 ms   20.145 ms
 7  Scylla (  156.335 ms   164.501 ms   171.735 ms

To my eyes it looks like the data is going through Amsterdam IX.

I did not say the host was connected to the IX. I said it was living in a
datacentre connected to Amsterdam IX.

The costumer pays for the ISP beeing present at Amsterdam IX.

If that is not the case please tell me, so they can get their money back.

I am sorry if I mixed up too computers one in the netherlands in an easynet
colocation with another one here in germany with KPN. Both could reach

And this I found from the Amsterdam IX memberlist:

KPN Internet Solutions - AS286
AS Number: 286
Member since: 2002-10-14
Organisational contact: [email protected]
Peering contact: [email protected]
Peering policy:

So I guess that computer too is connect not via DTAG.DE but via
Amsterdam IX

I never claimed to be a routing guru. I you feel like splitting
hairs you are welcome.

Kind regards,
Peter and Karin Dambier

Peter and Karin Dambier
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