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Re: multi homing pressure

  • From: James
  • Date: Mon Oct 24 05:55:21 2005

On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 11:23:38PM -0700, Alexei Roudnev wrote:
> 
> It is not true. Many tier-2 ISP specializes in very ghigh quality Internet
> access, so mnasking problems of big ISP (who in reality never can provide
> high quality Internet at all). Good example - Internap.
> 

Masking "problems" of a big ISP and yet creating problems of their own.  Have
you seen completely multi-transited "tier2 networks" flapping hard core?

> So, it is not about tier-1 vs tier-2, it is about ISP specialized on cheap
> acvcess and ISP specialized on quality access. Is COGENT (for example only -
> I have nothing against them) tier-1 ISP - may be; are they high quality
> ISP - in NO WAY (they just provide bandwidth to nowhere without any clue).

Non-sense.

James

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Dupuy" <[email protected]>
> To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:05 AM
> Subject: Re: multi homing pressure
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > >For the customer with an Internet "mission critical app", being tied
> > >to a Tier 2 has it's own set of problems, which might actually be
> > >worse than being tied to a Tier 1.
> >
> > The key word is "might". In fact, I would posit that a Tier 2 with
> multiply
> > redundant transit to all of the Tier 1s could theoretically have better
> > connectivity than an actual Tier 1. The Tier 2 transit provides
> flexibility
> > that the transit-free Tier 1s do not have. Just my opinion.
> >
> > Anyway, it has been my experience that most (but not all) of the customers
> > that want to "multihome" are _really_ wanting either: A. geographic/router
> > redundancy. or B. easy renumbering. Geographic redundancy can be done
> > within a single AS and IP block. They just don't know to ask it that way.
> > (And easy renumbering will eventually be solved with v6. Eventually.)
> >
> > The demand for multi-homing might not be as great as suspected.
> >
> > John
> >