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Re: IPv6 news

  • From: Christopher L. Morrow
  • Date: Sat Oct 15 22:21:21 2005

On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Tony Li wrote:
> >> The operational community needs to reach consensus on what its
> >> priorities are.  We fought the CIDR wars to keep the routing
> >> subsystem working and the operational community were the primary
> >> backers of that.  To not support scalable multihoming is to reverse
> >> that position entirely.
> >
> > CIDR didn't have the big disadvantages to operators (at least non that
> > I can identify, not having personally lived thru the CIDR migration).
> No.  It had big disadvantages to the end users.  We asked them to
> suck it up in the name of having a scalable Internet.  Now that we
> are proposing a technology to continue to help the providers scale,
> but that has disadvantages to the providers, we're seeing that the
> providers are not willing to sacrifice.  Extremely disappointing.

I don't want to speak for Daniel, nor other operators really, but a
solution that doesn't allow an operator to traffic engineer internally or
externally is just not workable. For the same reasons quoted in your other
messages to me: "Increased reliance on the Internet"

If the network isn't reliable due to suboptimal routing issues it can't
survive :(

> condemning the result.  The provider community has been well served
> by the IETF over the years and shim6 deserves at least a full and
> reasoned hearing before you throw the baby out with the bath-water.

agreed, but it doesn't seem that, until recently atleast, there was much
operator participation. Hopefully that's changing for the better :)