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Re: IPv6 news

  • From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
  • Date: Thu Oct 13 02:58:56 2005

Hi Geoff,

Sorry, I think replied the wrong email, I was referring to the comment about
the reclaim of unused space, I'm sure was in the last APNIC, but I'm
starting to doubt if you said it or somebody else ...

One more comment on this thread is regarding the usage of private addresses
for managing networks, such as cable modems. I've understood that at least
one big ISP in Japan and another in US run into troubles because net 10/8
become short for them. At least the Japanese one got a public /8 to renumber
the network, and I guess this will start to happen more often.

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Geoff Huston <[email protected]>
> Responder a: <[email protected]>
> Fecha: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:52:48 +1000
> Para: <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Asunto: Re: IPv6 news
> 
> Jordi,
> 
> I don't think I've ever said how long a time IPv4 trading would continue
> to undertake a viable form of distribution following the exhaustion of the
> unallocated IP number pool. Yes I am guilty of some speculation about
> what happens post unallocated exhaustion, and the latest set of
> speculative questions was at this week's RIPE 51 meeting
> (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-51/presentations/pdf/ripe51-ipv4-lifet
> ime-rev.pdf)
> 
> (Look at the end of the presentation for some speculative thoughts
> on this topic.)
> 
> regards,
> 
>     Geoff
> 
> At 09:41 AM 13/10/2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> 
>> I don't think so ... I recall Geoff Huston in the last APNIC indicated that
>> this kind of actions are only going to provide a few additional time.
>> 
>> I think the BoF should be more in the direction of "why not doing already
>> IPv6 (from the perspective of the ISPs) ?".
>> 
>> Delaying the inevitable don't seems the best approach to me, instead,
>> preparing everything ahead of time, reduce the cost, which in any case is
>> not significant.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> De: Daniel Golding <[email protected]>
>>> Responder a: <[email protected]>
>>> Fecha: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:20:31 -0400
>>> Para: Randy Bush <[email protected]>, "Steven M. Bellovin"
>> <[email protected]>
>>> CC: <[email protected]>
>>> Conversaciļæ½n: IPv6 news
>>> Asunto: Re: IPv6 news
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/12/05 3:13 PM, "Randy Bush" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> geoff's predictions for a very lively market in v4 space will
>>>> seriously come into play.
>>> 
>>> Maybe its time to have a serious talk about IPv4 commodity trading schemes.
>>> Anyone interested in this enough to have a BOF at ARIN/NANOG?
>>> 
>>> This could extend the lifetime of the IPv4 space significantly by promoting
>>> efficient use through economic incentives, provide positive economic
>>> incentives to move to v6 when needed, and eliminate the grey market.
>>> 
>>> Proper controls could be put into place to prevent de-aggregation through
>>> utilization of the RIRs as clearing houses.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> randy
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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