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Re: Cogent move without renumbering

  • From: Randy Bush
  • Date: Sat Oct 08 02:40:34 2005

> On 07 Oct 2005, Paul Vixie wrote:
>>>> IX's are not, alas, the center of the internet, no matter what
>>>> anybody's marketing might say.  the vast majority of traffic
>>>> exchange is by private interconnect, which might be an IX
>>>> crossconnect, but might just as likely be some kind of ISO-L1
>>>> or ISO-L2 link through a metro or telco or whatever.
>>> most "ISPs that matter" aren't connected to _any_ IX.  (Noted
>>> as well by Paul Vixie in an earlier message.)
>> this is not what vixie said at all, luckily for him, because it is
>> incorrect
> Perhaps you are ....

i am saying that paul did not say that most isps that matter are
not connected to any ix, which can be clearly [not] seen in the
text of his you quoted.

what he also did not say, but you put words into his keyboard to
contradict was that ...

most isps that matter are actually at ixen, though they do not
exchange large amounts of traffic there.  ixen do not much like the
gigabits of traffic exchanged between the major isps, and the isps
don't particularly wish to expose that traffic to ixen.  note that
this is a somewhat us-centric view, but does extend somewhat.

but what does this have to do with a collection of newcomers,
amnesiacs, and pontificants [re]learning the facts of life about
peering, depeering chicken, etc?  no answer required.