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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical RE: UUNET connectivity in Minneapolis, MN
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] On Behalf Of James D. Butt > Unless there is some sort of crazy story related > to why a service provider > could not keep the lights on, this should have not > been an issue with > proper operations and engineering. 6 stories from the trenches Once a back hoe decided to punch through a high pressure natural gas main, right outside our offices. The fire department had us shut down ANYTHING that MIGHT make a spark. No nothing was able to run. It did not matter that we had uspes and such, all went dark for hours. During the Northridge earthquake (the one during the world series in sf.ba.ca.us) there was a BUNCH of disruption of the infrastructure, drives were shaken til they crashed, power wend down all over the area, Telco lines got knocked down, underground vaults got flooded, and data centers went off line. When ISDN was king(or ya get a t-1), I worked for an ISP in the bay area that was one of the few to have SOME connectivity when mae-w went down. We had a t-1 that went “north” to another exchange point, and even though that little guy had %50+ packet loss, it kept chugging. We were one of the few isp’s that had ANY net connection, most of the people went in through their local MAE , (that was in the days before connecting to a MAE required that you be connected to several other MAE’s) Once while working for a startup in SF, I pushed for upses and backup power gen sets for our rack of boxes, and I was told that we were "in the middle of the finintial district of SF, that bart/the cable cars ran near by, and that a big huge sub station with in rock throwing distance of our building, not to mention a power plant a couple miles away. There was no reason for us to invest in backup gen sets, or hours of ups time…. I asked what the procedure was if we lost power for an extended period of time, and I was told, “we go home” wellllllll…… the power went off to the entire SF region, and I was able to shut down the equipment with out to much trouble, cause my laptop was plugged into a ups (at my desk) and the critical servers were on a ups, as well as the hub I was on. After I verified that we were stil up at our co-lo (via my CDPD modem) I stated the facts to my boss, and told him that I was following his established procedure for extended power loss. I was on my way home. (boss=not happy) A backup generator failed at a co-lo because of algae in the diesel fuel. Another time a valve broke in the buildings HVAC system sending pink gooey water under the door , and into the machine room. There are reasons why a bunch of 9’s piled together, weird stuff does happen. This is nanog, each ‘old timer’ has a few dozen of these events they can relate. The first 2 ya realy can’t prepare for other than for all your stuff to be mirrored ‘some place else’, the rest are preventable, but they were still rare. ( back to an operational slant) Get a microwave t-2 and shoot it over to some other building, get a freaking cable modem as a backup, or find another way to get your lines out. If having things work is important to you, YOU should make sure it happens! If people are preventing you from doing your job (having servers up and reachable) CYA, and point it out in the post mortem. -charles Curse the dark, or light a match. You decide, it's your dark. Valdis.Kletnieks in NANOG
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