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Re: as numbers

  • From: Robert Boyle
  • Date: Sun Jul 31 11:11:14 2005

At 10:51 AM 7/31/2005, Joe Abley wrote:
I agree that implementation sooner rather than later is a good idea, but all of us already have a 2-Byte AS so although we care in theory and believe it is a good idea, we don't _really_ care as much as the first guy who gets a 4-Byte AS will.
The first guy who gets a 4-byte AS number is going to be one of our customers. If we want to be able to talk BGP with him, we need 4-byte AS number support in our edge routers.
I know, understand, and agree. He is going to be one of our customers, but he isn't us and the new 4-byte AS allocations aren't real yet either. I'm just saying that of all the things that we (nanog collectively, not just Tellurian) need our router vendors to do, this is on the list, but it isn't #1 or maybe even in the top ten. However, I would also rather have it BEFORE we need it. Is 2005 too soon for people to _demand_ it? Maybe...

ISPs who have an interest in continuing to win transit customers past 2008/2009 should be interested in getting 4-byte AS number support, regardless of how many 2-byte AS numbers they already have. ISPs who plan to stop getting new customers don't need to bother :-)
Of course! I agree with you, but the point I'm trying to make is that I don't expect most ISPs to prioritize this feature with their vendors until about January 2008. That means we'll have buggy 4-byte AS code until about summer 2009. :P

-R


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