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At 8:41 PM -0400 2005-07-25, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: Syslog is a standard *nix administration tool, useful for system administrators but also used by network administrators and anyone else doing any kind of administration on a *nix box. RRD, MRTG, and Ethereal are standard *nix network and system administration tools. Flowscan and Flowtools are standard *nix network administration tools. I see nothing here that is unique to the ISP environment.I'm not convinced that this is an appropriate on-topic posting for NANOG. It seems to me that you would be much better off going through SANS or SAGE to find local groups in the area that could be helpful to you.Actually, the interest is in open-source ISP tools. Moreover, in the role of system administrator (not network administrator), I have personally used all but one of these toolsets -- flowscan/flowtools. As a system administrator, I've written syslog processing tools or hacked on syslog processing tools originally developed by others, and in some cases I've even taken over maintenance of those tools. I see nothing here that is unique to the ISP environment. At Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:50:23 GMT, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: I don't see anything in the original request that seems to make this post more suitable for NANOG than anywhere else. And I see nothing here that makes this post unique to an ISP environment, or even just more ISP-oriented than plain general network-oriented.Don't sweat it, Howard -- some people would rather slam you for what you post to the list than help out. Shame, that. Moreover, Howard was talking about a virtual training group setting up shop that needed some help with what seemed to me to be some very basic stuff -- the sort of thing that I would hope any training group would have the in-house expertise to deal with, otherwise they wouldn't be qualified to be providing training on those topics. However, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that he just went to the wrong place to ask his question as opposed to asking the wrong question in the first place. Part of the reason for my original response on this thread is that I have been chastised a couple of times by the new-generation moderators for being off-topic, and I recalled that we're trying to be more self-policing about these sorts of things. I'm honestly trying to understand what is an on-topic post and what is not, and it seems to me that this is pretty clearly off-topic. So what is on-topic? I've got a question that I've been thinking about for a while regarding SIP/VOIP white/yellow pages directory services and aggregation, and I've been afraid to ask here because I felt it might be too basic and non on-topic. -- Brad Knowles, <[email protected]> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.
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