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Re: compromized host list available

  • From: Charles Cala
  • Date: Thu Jul 21 13:11:50 2005
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--- Joseph S D Yao <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Unless you have personally verified each entry, you would do well to add
> a disclaimer that DNSRBLs are not 100% reliable, eh?

And what on the net is? :)
I’m all for people dealing with “badly managed” boxes at various levels.


While some data may be stale/wrong, and DNSRBL
isn’t the "perfect"  mechanism to distribute this
information, it works "well enough".

The internet was built on the (well proven) theory that 
things are unreliable, and we should do things that we think
will help get more uptime, upses, back up gen sets, HSRP, 
alt-paths, alt-routes, back up data centers, etc.
All of witch have at least one gotya.

If you do not understand the limits if the tools
That you are using, you might be a windows admin 
(if " fsck –y " describes how you deal with relationship issues 
you might be a unix admin :) , or you just can’t be bothered.

More tools and information are a good thing, 
but how/where you chose to use a sawzall is up to you.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/us/en/news.nsf/vwFeaturedProducts/4CBA61C6E299F75D86256FEB0072211D?OpenDocument

The packets that you allow across YOUR 
slice of the net are also up to you.


I believe that this tool is best used as an "outsiders view" into 
your space to see what is going on _inside your network_ , 
based on the behavior observed by others. (hay rick, can you do a 
tool like this to help us (well me) with social skills?)

If you’re the kind of person who complies when some one says
"go BLEEP yourself" perhaps the internet is not a place for you,
And perhaps blindly following the info that any tool gives out 
is not the best thing for you or your network. 
Use your brain, not just the tool.

Missing the days of John Postel
http://www.usc.edu/webcast/events/postel/
http://www.isoc.org/postel/
-charles


http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html