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Re: The whole alternate-root ${STATE}horse

  • From: Todd Vierling
  • Date: Sat Jul 09 14:30:27 2005

On Sat, 9 Jul 2005, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

> > > "infrastructure at risk".  Justify this *far-reaching* statement,
> > > please.  Show your work.
> >
> > AlterNIC overriding .COM and .NET listings, one of the issues leading to its
> > demise.  (This was done in addition to the more memorable cache poisoning
> > attacks against INTERNIC.NET.)
>
> To the extent that you don't call that a criminal aberration -- one
> that could as easily have happened to one of the root servers currently
> *taking* the ICANN root zone -- it only affected people who were
> resolving off that root.  That's a pretty small number, and, IMHO,
> doesn't rise to the level of "placing the infrastructure [of the entire
> net] at risk".

Such a "small" detail is such a big problem because entities using the
alternate root end up seeing a different view of what should be fixed data,
and the details of why they see a different view is normally *hidden from
the end user*.  So end users are caught unaware of the fact that their
communications may be going to someone completely different than intended.

> > The risk is uncertainty of name resolution, as the root zone can in fact
> > override N-level records simply by posessing a more specific name.  Root
> > servers are queried for the full host (but respond with the NS glue
> > delegation), not just the first component, which allows for such overriding.
>
> And that possibility is any different in the n-root case than in the
> 1-root case... why?

Besides the end user visibility problem above, the 1-root case has a legal
and tecnical accountability advantage:  if someone were to mess with ".", a
LOT of people would notice, and the offending person or entity could be
prosecuted (or at least isolated from the net) more quickly and easily.

As much as the Utopian ideal of an entity without accountability (such as an
alternate root) may sound pleasing, even to me, lack of accountability
actually decreases security by the very same means that AlterNIC was able to
override 2LDs.

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-- Todd Vierling <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>