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  • From: James Laszko
  • Date: Wed Jun 29 13:46:25 2005

Most MPLS networks use a combination of point to point, frame and ATM
facilities as the infrastructure.  The phone companies use ATM just
about everywhere to deliver voice across their networks.  I don't see
ATM/FR equipment being EOL'd anytime in the near future.

James Laszko
Pipeline Communications, Inc.
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Christopher L. Morrow
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:25 AM
To: Jason Frisvold
Cc: Petri Helenius; Philip Lavine; nanog
Subject: Re: ATM

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Jason Frisvold wrote:

> On 6/29/05, Petri Helenius <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Maybe the small fact that ATM is fading away and building new
> > with technology going away is going to explode your operational cost
> > a few years time. Business grade IP networks will provide you with
> > if not better performance than a "dedicated" ATM WAN.
> And being replaced with ....  ?  GigE?  DPT/RPR?  MPLS?
> ATM is a great technology...  Unfortunately, I don't think it was ever
> fully utilized..  From what I understand, MPLS takes some of the good
> bits and combines it with traditional routing..  But I don't see a lot
> of MPLS implementations either...

look to the private networks luke... Seriously, many large private
ATM/Frame networks are transitioning to MPLS networks because the ATM or
Frame gear is/was/will-be-shortly EOL/EOS from the vendors. The costs to
run these networks don't jibe well with the alternatives.

Now, start the discussion on: "private network" and "mpls vpn" and
hey, that runs over the same routers as that bad-old Internet thing with
the haxors and such!"