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Re: VerizonWireless.com Mail Blacklists

  • From: Rich Kulawiec
  • Date: Wed Jun 01 12:11:23 2005

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 04:46:01PM -0000, John Levine wrote:
> VZW recently confirmed that their mail system is separate from VZ's,
> and whatever mistakes they may make, they're not VZ's.

Okay, fine -- and a look at DNS seems to back this up (unless I'm
missing something).  And I've no desire to lay VZ's mistakes at VZW's
feet, or vice versa -- but that still leaves whoever-is-affected (like
the orginal poster or anyone else out there) to deal with the issues.
And the lack of participation by VZ and VZW in the leading applicable
forum (i.e. Spam-L) isn't helping.  At least some of the other folks
are engaged in dialogue with their peers, even if what they're saying
isn't to everyone's liking.

(As to Verizon itself, since three different people pointed out the
relative lack of SBL listings: keep in mind that SBL listings are put
in place for very specific reasons, and aren't the only indicator of
spam.  Other DNSBLs and RHSBLs, e.g. the CBL, use different criteria
and thus provide different measurements (if you will) of spam.  So,
to give a sample data point, in the last week alone, there have been
315 spam attempts directed at *just this address* from 194 different
IP addresses (list attached) that belong to VZ.  Have I reported them?
Of *course* not.  What would be the point in that?)

---Rsk
wbar1.chi1-4-10-118-158.chi1.dsl-verizon.net [4.10.118.158]
hnllhi1-ar6-4-11-039-125.dsl-verizon.net [4.11.39.125]
[email protected] [4.3.236.250]
hnllhi1-ar3-4-3-111-154.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net [4.3.111.154]
wbar2.wdc2-4.30.100.231.wdc2.dsl-verizon.net [4.30.100.231]
wbar12.sea1-4.32.1.170.dsl-verizon.net [4.32.1.170]
wbar12.sea1-4.32.2.144.dsl-verizon.net [4.32.2.144]
atlnga1-ar2-4-34-191-127.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net [4.34.191.127]
chcgil2-ar7-4-34-128-080.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net [4.34.128.80]
wbar7.sea1-4-4-042-075.sea1.dsl-verizon.net [4.4.42.75]
wbar8.sea1-4-4-065-255.sea1.dsl-verizon.net [4.4.65.255]
wbar8.sea1-4-4-073-107.sea1.dsl-verizon.net [4.4.73.107]
hnllhi1-ar3-4-42-103-001.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net [4.42.103.1]
hnllhi1-ar3-4-43-152-035.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net [4.43.152.35]
lsanca1-ar16-4-46-046-186.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.46.46.186]
lsanca1-ar19-4-46-077-103.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.46.77.103]
lsanca1-ar12-4-60-179-045.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.60.179.45]
lsanca1-ar2-4-60-003-159.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.60.3.159]
washdc3-ar8-4-62-076-106.washdc3.dsl-verizon.net [4.62.76.106]
evrtwa1-ar5-4-65-000-098.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.65.0.98]
lsanca1-ar9-4-65-084-147.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.65.84.147]
hnllhi1-ar7-4-7-214-201.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net [4.7.214.201]
pool-64-222-182-239.man.east.verizon.net [64.222.182.239]
pool-64-223-119-29.burl.east.verizon.net [64.223.119.29]
pool-64-223-82-120.burl.east.verizon.net [64.223.82.120]
pool-68-160-165-106.bos.east.verizon.net [68.160.165.106]
pool-68-160-190-103.bos.east.verizon.net [68.160.190.103]
pool-68-160-210-53.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.210.53]
pool-68-161-112-23.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.112.23]
pool-68-161-167-156.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.167.156]
pool-68-161-42-244.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.42.244]
pool-68-161-59-43.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.59.43]
pool-68-162-13-70.nwrk.east.verizon.net [68.162.13.70]
pool-68-162-145-6.pitt.east.verizon.net [68.162.145.6]
static-68-162-251-148.bos.east.verizon.net [68.162.251.148]
static-68-162-85-97.phil.east.verizon.net [68.162.85.97]
pool-68-163-151-181.bos.east.verizon.net [68.163.151.181]
pool-68-163-66-254.res.east.verizon.net [68.163.66.254]
static-68-236-207-121.nwrk.east.verizon.net [68.236.207.121]
pool-68-237-213-60.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.237.213.60]
pool-68-238-16-251.rich.east.verizon.net [68.238.16.251]
pool-68-239-58-165.bos.east.verizon.net [68.239.58.165]
pool-70-104-104-209.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net [70.104.104.209]
pool-70-104-119-185.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net [70.104.119.185]
pool-70-105-12-148.rich.east.verizon.net [70.105.12.148]
pool-70-105-207-214.scr.east.verizon.net [70.105.207.214]
pool-70-106-208-58.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net [70.106.208.58]
pool-70-107-198-95.ny325.east.verizon.net [70.107.198.95]
static-70-107-239-188.ny325.east.verizon.net [70.107.239.188]
pool-70-108-31-161.res.east.verizon.net [70.108.31.161]
pool-70-109-107-92.alb.east.verizon.net [70.109.107.92]
pool-70-110-186-17.phil.east.verizon.net [70.110.186.17]
pool-70-16-121-96.scr.east.verizon.net [70.16.121.96]
pool-70-16-137-90.phil.east.verizon.net [70.16.137.90]
pool-70-17-10-94.balt.east.verizon.net [70.17.10.94]
pool-70-17-197-159.balt.east.verizon.net [70.17.197.159]
pool-70-17-75-173.res.east.verizon.net [70.17.75.173]
pool-70-18-148-156.norf.east.verizon.net [70.18.148.156]
pool-70-18-215-41.ny325.east.verizon.net [70.18.215.41]
pool-70-19-255-63.bos.east.verizon.net [70.19.255.63]
pool-70-20-192-78.phil.east.verizon.net [70.20.192.78]
pool-70-20-241-84.phil.east.verizon.net [70.20.241.84]
pool-70-20-45-51.man.east.verizon.net [70.20.45.51]
pool-70-20-54-159.man.east.verizon.net [70.20.54.159]
static-70-20-130-10.phil.east.verizon.net [70.20.130.10]
pool-70-21-134-133.nwrk.east.verizon.net [70.21.134.133]
pool-70-21-196-16.nwrk.east.verizon.net [70.21.196.16]
pool-70-21-232-60.nwrk.east.verizon.net [70.21.232.60]
[email protected] [70.22.153.150]
pool-70-22-11-63.balt.east.verizon.net [70.22.11.63]
pool-70-22-139-189.bos.east.verizon.net [70.22.139.189]
pool-70-22-194-59.bos.east.verizon.net [70.22.194.59]
static-70-22-153-150.bos.east.verizon.net [70.22.153.150]
pool-70-23-27-144.ny325.east.verizon.net [70.23.27.144]
pool-70-23-99-73.ny325.east.verizon.net [70.23.99.73]
pool-71-100-14-182.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.100.14.182]
pool-71-101-139-249.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.101.139.249]
pool-71-101-142-44.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.101.142.44]
pool-71-101-32-84.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.101.32.84]
pool-71-101-37-116.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.101.37.116]
pool-71-101-58-191.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.101.58.191]
pool-71-102-1-129.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.1.129]
pool-71-102-154-89.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.154.89]
pool-71-102-21-211.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.102.21.211]
pool-71-103-114-55.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.103.114.55]
pool-71-103-33-165.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.103.33.165]
pool-71-104-101-25.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.104.101.25]
pool-71-104-139-76.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.104.139.76]
pool-71-105-141-54.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.105.141.54]
pool-71-105-161-87.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.105.161.87]
pool-71-105-242-233.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.105.242.233]
[email protected] [71.105.2.253]
[email protected] [71.106.117.84]
pool-71-106-102-248.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.106.102.248]
pool-71-106-84-141.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.106.84.141]
pool-71-107-112-67.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.107.112.67]
pool-71-107-164-66.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.107.164.66]
pool-71-107-167-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.107.167.61]
pool-71-107-201-155.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.107.201.155]
pool-71-107-5-14.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.107.5.14]
pool-71-107-81-202.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.107.81.202]
pool-71-107-98-78.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.107.98.78]
pool-71-108-113-223.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.108.113.223]
pool-71-108-134-101.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.108.134.101]
pool-71-108-162-177.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.108.162.177]
pool-71-108-186-96.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.108.186.96]
pool-71-108-193-159.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.108.193.159]
pool-71-108-238-113.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.108.238.113]
pool-71-108-84-20.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.108.84.20]
pool-71-109-107-249.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.107.249]
pool-71-109-113-31.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.113.31]
pool-71-109-23-123.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.23.123]
pool-71-109-29-232.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.29.232]
pool-71-109-83-230.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.83.230]
[email protected] [71.110.198.192]
[email protected] [71.110.64.33]
pool-71-110-104-157.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.104.157]
pool-71-110-142-236.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.142.236]
pool-71-110-40-164.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.40.164]
[email protected] [71.110.142.50]
pool-71-111-138-3.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.138.3]
pool-71-111-156-156.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.156.156]
pool-71-111-183-13.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.183.13]
pool-71-111-221-62.rlghnc.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.221.62]
pool-71-111-223-58.rlghnc.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.223.58]
pool-71-111-26-70.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.26.70]
pool-71-111-9-61.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.9.61]
pool-71-112-100-125.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.100.125]
pool-71-112-131-42.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.131.42]
pool-71-112-166-32.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.166.32]
pool-71-112-198-229.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.198.229]
pool-71-112-215-92.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.215.92]
pool-71-112-220-150.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.220.150]
pool-71-112-49-46.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.49.46]
pool-71-112-92-151.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.92.151]
pool-71-113-231-34.herntx.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.113.231.34]
pool-71-113-245-77.herntx.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.113.245.77]
pool-71-113-42-198.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.113.42.198]
pool-71-113-43-78.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.113.43.78]
pool-71-114-69-60.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.114.69.60]
pool-71-115-13-177.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.115.13.177]
pool-71-115-61-249.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.115.61.249]
pool-71-241-30-100.norf.east.verizon.net [71.241.30.100]
pool-71-96-144-181.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.96.144.181]
pool-71-96-152-210.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.96.152.210]
pool-71-96-155-10.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.96.155.10]
pool-71-96-195-38.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.96.195.38]
pool-71-96-225-116.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.96.225.116]
pool-71-96-255-107.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.96.255.107]
pool-71-96-77-241.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.96.77.241]
pool-71-97-130-100.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.97.130.100]
pool-71-97-180-40.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.97.180.40]
pool-71-97-188-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.97.188.232]
pool-71-97-5-54.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.97.5.54]
[email protected] [71.97.20.31]
pool-71-99-13-19.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.99.13.19]
pool-71-99-146-127.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.99.146.127]
pool-71-99-192-163.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.99.192.163]
pool-71-99-239-29.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.99.239.29]
pool-71-99-87-208.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.99.87.208]
pool-138-89-141-175.mad.east.verizon.net [138.89.141.175]
pool-138-89-147-195.mad.east.verizon.net [138.89.147.195]
pool-138-89-176-188.mad.east.verizon.net [138.89.176.188]
pool-138-89-208-102.atc.east.verizon.net [138.89.208.102]
pool-138-89-218-27.atc.east.verizon.net [138.89.218.27]
pool-141-149-14-49.alb.east.verizon.net [141.149.14.49]
pool-141-149-208-18.syr.east.verizon.net [141.149.208.18]
pool-141-149-38-97.ny325.east.verizon.net [141.149.38.97]
pool-141-149-39-129.ny325.east.verizon.net [141.149.39.129]
pool-141-149-45-108.ny325.east.verizon.net [141.149.45.108]
pool-141-151-189-200.pitt.east.verizon.net [141.151.189.200]
pool-141-152-157-152.norf.east.verizon.net [141.152.157.152]
static-141-152-158-199.norf.east.verizon.net [141.152.158.199]
pool-141-154-113-202.bos.east.verizon.net [141.154.113.202]
pool-141-155-158-219.ny5030.east.verizon.net [141.155.158.219]
pool-141-156-133-247.res.east.verizon.net [141.156.133.247]
pool-141-156-218-185.res.east.verizon.net [141.156.218.185]
pool-141-157-62-254.balt.east.verizon.net [141.157.62.254]
pool-141-158-244-178.phil.east.verizon.net [141.158.244.178]
pool-141-158-251-217.phil.east.verizon.net [141.158.251.217]
pool-151-196-250-137.balt.east.verizon.net [151.196.250.137]
pool-151-198-153-236.nwrk.east.verizon.net [151.198.153.236]
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pool-151-203-67-96.bos.east.verizon.net [151.203.67.96]
pool-151-205-239-110.cap.east.verizon.net [151.205.239.110]
pool-162-83-224-99.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.83.224.99]
static-162-83-94-239.culp.east.verizon.net [162.83.94.239]
pool-162-84-146-93.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.84.146.93]
pool-162-84-213-218.ny5030.east.verizon.net [162.84.213.218]
static-207-68-116-40.alt.east.verizon.net [207.68.116.40]