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Re: Blocking port udp/tcp 1433/1434

  • From: John Kristoff
  • Date: Thu May 12 13:24:26 2005

On Thu, 12 May 2005 04:15:07 -1000
Brian Russo <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps a better question is:
> 
> Is there now justification for allowing transit for ms-sql slammer
> ports?

I think there always has been some justification.  Here is a very
small sample of real traffic that I can assure is not Slammer traffic,
but it is being filtered nonetheless (IP addresses removed):

  May 12 09:15:30.598 CDT[...] denied udp removed(53) -> removed(1434), 1 packet
  May 12 09:26:30.210 CDT[...] denied tcp removed(80) -> removed(1434), 1 packet
  May 12 09:32:23.122 CDT[...] denied tcp removed(80) -> removed(1434), 1 packet
  May 12 09:42:38.558 CDT[...] denied udp removed(123) -> removed(123), 1 packet
  May 12 10:12:50.422 CDT[...] denied udp removed(53) -> removed(1434), 1 packet

Some have suggested adjusting filters so that the src port is > 1023,
which may be somewhat less harmful, but then others may object to this
being an unacceptable hole.

You can design networks, educate people, build tools, and write secure
software to deal with all of the security problems, which will be very
expensive and slow or you can count down from 2^320 til you approach 0,
perhaps in large jumps, which is the way of the IP/TCP packet filters.
That might be just as slow and expensive, but unfortunately results in
complete dismantling of the system.

Perhaps there are better alternatives, but I think they probably fall
in between those two.

John