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Re: Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based)

  • From: Bruce Pinsky
  • Date: Wed May 04 12:48:44 2005

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Luke Parrish wrote:
| My email was confusing since I said the word speed, I would like to ms
| roundtrip for the following:
|
| *1. CPE to first layer 3 hop
| 2. CPE to first layer 3 upstream hop
| 3. CPE to layer 3 exit point of upstream
|
| *Example:
|
| Trace route to www.yahoo.com
|
| <http://www.yahoo.com/>1. 10.10.10.1 (CPE) 1ms
| 2. 10.10.10.254 (DSLAM)(cte) 21ms*(first layer 3 hop)
| *3. 11.1.1.1 (Router)(cte) 24ms
| 4. 5.5.1.3 (upstream interface)(level3) 68ms*(first layer 3 upstream hop)
| *5. 5.4.3.2 (exit point of upstream)(handoff from level3 to at&t) 94ms
| *(layer 3 exit point of upstream)
|
| *Those ms values are what I am curious about. What are other providers
| seeing and what are, in your opinion, acceptable ms times for a home
| 1.5M dsl user...
|

Those times seem high to me.  I have a 1.5/768 ADSL circuit and I routinely
see 13-15ms to my 1st IP hop and 15-18 to the upstream handoff.  I'm
14.5Kft from my CO and my IP is backhauled to SFO from SJC.  Here are a few
examples:

[email protected]% traceroute www.yahoo.com
traceroute to www.yahoo.akadns.net (66.94.230.44), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
~ 1  cerberus-internal.pinskyfamily.org (172.16.77.1)  3 ms  1 ms  1 ms
~ 2  er1.sfo1.speakeasy.net (66.92.1.1)  18 ms  17 ms  17 ms
~ 3  220.ge-0-1-0.cr2.sfo1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.177)  16 ms  15 ms  15 ms
~ 4  bas1-m.pao.yahoo.com (198.32.176.135)  16 ms  15 ms  14 ms
~ 5  ge-1-0-2.msr1.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.82.193)  17 ms  15 ms  17 ms
~ 6  UNKNOWN-66-218-82-230.yahoo.com (66.218.82.230)  16 ms
vl42.bas1-m.scd.yahoo.com (66.218.82.226)  16 ms  16 ms
~ 7  p13.www.scd.yahoo.com (66.94.230.44)  18 ms  16 ms  15 ms


[email protected]% traceroute www.nytimes.com
traceroute to www.nytimes.com (199.239.137.245), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
~ 1  cerberus-internal.pinskyfamily.org (172.16.77.1)  2 ms  1 ms  1 ms
~ 2  er1.sfo1.speakeasy.net (66.92.1.1)  19 ms  16 ms  16 ms
~ 3  110.ge-0-0-0.cr1.sfo1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.189)  17 ms  14 ms  33 ms
~ 4  g8-1.mpr2.pao1.us.above.net (209.249.11.177)  14 ms  16 ms  14 ms
~ 5  so-0-0-0.mpr4.pao1.us.above.net (64.125.27.82)  13 ms  13 ms  13 ms
~ 6  p4-2-0-0.r06.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.129)  15 ms  13 ms  18 ms
~ 7  p16-0-1-0.r21.plalca01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.82)  15 ms  17 ms  16 ms
......



[email protected]% traceroute www.cisco.com
traceroute to www.cisco.com (198.133.219.25), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
~ 1  cerberus-internal.pinskyfamily.org (172.16.77.1)  3 ms  2 ms  1 ms
~ 2  er1.sfo1.speakeasy.net (66.92.1.1)  14 ms  14 ms  15 ms
~ 3  120.ge-0-0-0.cr2.sfo1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.185)  13 ms  50 ms  14 ms
~ 4  ge-4-0-440.ipcolo1.SanJose1.Level3.net (209.247.156.221)  13 ms  12 ms
~ 13 ms
~ 5  p1-0.cisco.bbnplanet.net (4.0.26.14)  19 ms  13 ms  14 ms
~ 6  sjce-dmzbb-gw1.cisco.com (128.107.239.53)  13 ms  13 ms  13 ms
~ 7  sjck-dmzdc-gw1.cisco.com (128.107.224.69)  15 ms  13 ms  13 ms
......


[email protected]% traceroute www.cnn.com
traceroute to cnn.com (64.236.24.12), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
~ 1  cerberus-internal.pinskyfamily.org (172.16.77.1)  2 ms  1 ms  1 ms
~ 2  er1.sfo1.speakeasy.net (66.92.1.1)  19 ms  15 ms  15 ms
~ 3  210.ge-0-1-0.cr1.sfo1.speakeasy.net (69.17.83.181)  17 ms  15 ms  13 ms
~ 4  g8-1.mpr2.pao1.us.above.net (209.249.11.177)  17 ms  14 ms  14 ms
~ 5  so-4-2-0.mpr3.sjc2.us.above.net (64.125.28.222)  17 ms  16 ms  16 ms
~ 6  so-0-0-0.mpr4.sjc2.us.above.net (64.125.30.2)  18 ms  16 ms  16 ms
~ 7  so-3-3-0.cr1.dfw2.us.above.net (64.125.29.58)  64 ms  61 ms  61 ms
~ 8  so-4-0-0.mpr1.iah1.us.above.net (64.125.31.37)  65 ms  66 ms  75 ms
~ 9  so-0-0-0.mpr2.iah1.us.above.net (64.125.31.62)  65 ms  66 ms  65 ms
10  so-5-0-0.mpr1.atl6.us.above.net (64.125.29.65)  77 ms  77 ms  75 ms
11  aol-above.atl4.above.net (209.249.119.242)  75 ms  85 ms  79 ms
12  bb1-atm-P0-0.atdn.net (66.185.147.192)  76 ms  76 ms  75 ms
13  pop1-atl-P4-0.atdn.net (66.185.136.17)  74 ms  75 ms  75 ms
...........

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