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It's not a buck a meg.
15/2 service is about $45/month:
over $3/Mbps downstream
over $22/Mbps for the upstream
30/5 service is almost $200/month:
over $6/Mbps downstream
about $40/Mbps for the upstream
There should be a little money in their model to
provide guidance and/or software to the consumer.
Hopefully enough to fund an aggressive abuse department.
At 05:34 PM 4/30/2005, you wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 03:07:47AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> > Sound about right?
>> No, not at all.
>>
>> I'm not advocating a wild west every man for himself, but, I think that
>> solving end-node oriented problems at the transport layer is equally
>> absurd.
>>
>> It's like expecting to be able to throw crude oil into a tanker at
>> one end and demanding that the trucker deliver gasoline at the other.
>
>Owen, I may be wrong... but it sounds to me like half the people in this
>conversation are talking about things *the retail gas station ought to
>do*, assuming that the people on the other side realize this, and the
>other side is reacting as if the first group is advocating that
>*refineries and pipeline operators* ought to be doing those things.
>
>Certainly backbone ops shouldn't be doing this sort of filtering, and
>if you're big enough and willing to pay enough, you ought to be able to
>get a hose free of such filters.
>
>But *what you're paying for* there is the right to pollute the commons,
>and no, people paying $1/MB's for their Verizon FTTH connection
>probably ought not to expect a raw unfiltered connection.
>
>It's not *just* about bandwidth...
>
>Cheers,
>-- jra
>--
>Jay R. Ashworth [email protected]
>Designer Baylink RFC 2100
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> If you can read this... thank a system administrator. Or two. --me
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