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On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 02:39 -0400, Dean Anderson wrote: > See http://www.iadl.org/sorbs/sorbs-story.html Having read this diatribe I can only catagorize it as mis-informed and state unequivocably that Brian McWilliams has no clue whatsoever who runs SPEWS. (please see myriad interviews I have down with BMcW). "See more about mailbombing. Mailbombers are spammers. They just aren't in it for the money. Or possibly they are. SORBS asks for donations to get delisted, and also seeks donations from Subscribers. It is very unusual for blacklists to extort money this way." This also is a blatant mischaracterization, the AHBL relies on donations and advertisements on the website to fund it's operational budget, spamhaus charges for commercial supporthttp://www.spamhaus.org/organization/funding.html . MCI reaps 5 million dollars per year on spam related income http://www.emailbattles.com/archive/battles/spam_aajghgebej_c/, spam costs companies billions http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A17754-2003Mar12, why are we expected to fight it for free? Though we do our best to look out for the good of the internet we are not by any means communists, and we deserve to be compensated for our work. Right now the AHBL barely covers the operational costs of the servers on a month-to-month basis let alone compensating it's volunteers for their time. > SORBS seems to be collecting a lot of sensitive information to view > listings: My site, my rules, or in this case Matthew's site, Matthew's rules. As a non-paying user you always have a choice as to whether or not you provide personal information to a website, should you choose not to, don't. The same goes with useage of the DNSBL or RHSBL. Note that this choice may result in your inability to access some content that that site has to offer. > or used for other mass marketing purposes. If Matthew Sullivan uses this to send spam, I'll personally eat my MTA. Please take your cart00ney and other senseless accusation-making activities to somewhere where I don't have to see them. Why is it when I google AV8 I get an abit motherboard and not your company? Odd, no website at www.av8.com. Do you sir have a network of any sort? -- Andrew D Kirch | Abusive Hosts Blocking List | www.ahbl.org Security Admin | Summit Open Source Development Group | www.sosdg.org Key At http://www.2mbit.com/~trelane/trelane.asc Key fingerprint = 4106 3338 1F17 1E6F 8FB2 8DFA 1331 7E25 C406 C8D2 Attachment:
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