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Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance

  • From: Owen DeLong
  • Date: Thu Mar 31 03:13:46 2005

No, but if your car doesn't have seat belts, we don't let you drive
it. Basic SMTP lacks safety features that are needed, ergo,
retrictions were placed on it.
	Basic SMTP is fine.  You all use it today.  I will use it
	to send this message.  SMTP is not better or worse than
	the postal service in identifying the sender and we have
	lived with the possability of fraudulent mail for centuries.

Yes and no.  It is significantly different from the postal service in
that the arrival of postal spam costs me nothing.  The additional bandwidth
it consumes does not delay my other email or interfere with other uses
I have for my household.  It doesn't prevent my postal mail from getting
out to others.  It has the additional advantage of actually costing the
sender something, thus reducing the number of senders.

	People have this idiotic expectation that because the mail
	is being delivered by a computer rather than a postie that
	the identity of the sender is somehow magically authenticated.

I don't think this is particularly true.  I think that the bigger issue
is sender pays (postal spam) vs. recipient pays (email spam).

	The real issue is that it is hard to police customer machines
	and it is cheeper to turn off SMTP than it is to identify,
	inform and help fix customer machines.  Sooner or later
	ISPs will have to start doing this as the people compromising
	machines have shown a long history of getting around all
	the blocks put in their way.  Spam is just a minor annoyance
	compared to what they could potentially be doing with the
	compromised machines.

True...  One of these days, I keep hoping that people will wake up and
demand less vulnerable operating systems for their machines.  Until that
happens (and no, the changes Micr0$0ft has made recently don't really
create an improvement in this situation, as, their blockades are so
obnoxious and so hard to selectively work around that most users just
turn them off completely), this will continue to be an issue.  The reason,
however, so many of these machines are being used for spam instead of
other nefarious purposes is that there is more money in spam at the moment.

Owen


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