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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: [OT] Re: Banned on NANOG
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Lou Katz wrote: This last part seems to be the worst part of the recurring theme.I was puzzled by this, since I basically lurk on the list, and have made very few postings. I replied to Susan privately that, among other things, I had no record nor recollection of any previous warnings, and asked politely for information regarding these, since I seemed to have used up my warning limit. To this day I have received no replies to that query message whatsoever. This is my first post directly to the NANOG list. Ever. I generally simply read the list, sometimes skip entire threads of little interest to me, and use nanog as someone decent daily disaster barometer. In the same light that scientists are more and more loathe to publish their findings for fear of prosecution or persecution in current political climates, the overall tone of posts here has changed, perceptibly, in the past months. In almost every thread I've seen whiz by about folks being banned or sanctioned, the common element has been, overall, the moderator's complete lack of regard for list participants in explaining the why's of a removal. A post earlier this week even showed one use attempting to escalate past Susan. Until someone explicitly identified Susan inside the past six months, as the moderator, I'd never even *heard* of her, and I've been lurking on this list for years. While this may be due to my own inattention, I think it's a significant problem that the moderator is a largely invisible entity and is apparantly as accountable as sicherheitspolizei. Long and short: I'm not a routing engineer for a major provider, but I'm a customer of more than one and the usefulness of this list in monitoring and maintaining my networks has significantly decreased as posters of various cluepower have been either removed, or simply discouraged from posting. This needs to change if nanog-l is to remain a viable entity. It's great that Merit hosts all of this, but frankly, none of us exist solely to give some faceless moderator power. I know I don't. I hope this will be one of the matters addressed in Vegas. - billn
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