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RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam scr eensaver site?
> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam > scr eensaver site? > > > > on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:55:02PM -0800, Chad Skidmore wrote: > quoting me: > > >What's the difference? Why is everyone so upset about Lycos and > > >nobody seems to be doing much of anything about the /existing > > >botnets/, which conservative estimates already put at anywhere > > >from 1-3K per botnet to upwards of 1-5M hosts total? > > > > Well, the primary difference is that Lycos is trying to market what > > they are doing as a "good" thing in a fairly public manner. If their > > vigilante efforts become accepted as "OK" then it further opens the > > door for others to take the next step towards making dDOS attacks ok > > as long as you feel your motivations are pure. As network operators > > we all need to make sure that we enforce our AUPs and make it known > > that breaking those AUPs is not ok just because you feel > your motives > > are pure. Most AUPs have some language that basically states that > > dDOS and simlar activities are "bad" and we will take action if you > > engage in said "bad" activities. > > My point was to Martin's question about what would happen if - god > forbid - there were large botnets under the control of spammers; a > careful reading will suggest that my major point was, duh, that there > already are large botnets under the control of spammers. Um, not 1 million bots - in concert. -M<