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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: BBC does IPv6 ;) (Was: large multi-site enterprises and PI
Hummzz, I guess that was the discussion PI vs PA that went on here ? The issue was that not only ASN delegation should be more policed but that also PI delegation should be more policed. Atleast that's my point of view. I think that in the current v4 policies, ASN assignment is sufficiently policed. I think that v4 ip assignment and allocation are sufficiently policed, and, at least in the ARIN RIR case, there is reason to look at reducing (slightly) the MAU for the policing of v4 prefixes. As I also stated in my last post (which you snipped out, and is pretty relevant) is that the handing out of ASN's should be harder. Currently ASN's are given to every silly dude that says 'i want multihoming'. This simply isn't true. It was true several years ago, but, is not true now. (At least for ARIN. I don't know what the policies are elsewhere). However I understand your statement, but the IPv4 policy's are mostly there because you still have to support the old way. In IPv6 we can do things the new way, so why shouldn't we decide on new policies that get us to stop all issues we had with IPv4. That would be nice, but, eliminating PI space for organizations that are able to get it or have it today will NOT lead to IPv6 adoption and will not stop the issues. It will stop some issues from some perspectives, but, as far as a significant portion of the IP using world is concerned, a major issue is not being able to switch providers without incurring significant costs associated with renumbering. Another issue is not being able to attach to multiple providers and have transparent session-continuing failover between them. Today, we solve those issues in IPv4 with ASNs and PI space that is multihomed. Many of the current v6 proposals eliminate that solution. Please tell me how, under the current v6 policies, you propose to solve the above issues in v6? Thanks, Owen -- Cliff Albert <[email protected]> -- If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me. Attachment:
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