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Re: People being removed from the list and such

  • From: Owen DeLong
  • Date: Tue Oct 19 00:30:05 2004

Although I have not yet been censored, I have been warned more than once.
I think, generally, Susan tries to do a good job, and, has a tough task
trying to balance SNR, AUP, and, the general tendencies of this crowd of

However, while I don't know the names of all the recent "victims", the ones
I know lead me to believe this is a legitimate request on both counts.

Now, Susan, before you decide that I am off topic, let me point out that
I believe, in good faith, that this is an issue requiring coordination.
Further, I believe that it is an issue affecting the future of the NANOG
list, and, that, the viability of NANOG as a forum _IS_ an operational


--On Monday, October 18, 2004 21:20 -0500 "Malayter, Christopher" <[email protected]> wrote:

It has come to my attention that recently several people have been
censored from posting to the [email protected] list.

I find it a bit unusual that from such an open discussion list that
membership would be censored without notice and reason to the rest of the

I wouldn't normally be the one to post this, but the people who have been
censored in some cases I believe to be extremely valuable people to the

My question is this: When people are removed/censored, be it temporary or
permanent, could we have a notice posted to the membership as to the
person, reason, and duration?

Also, I realize that this sounds odd, could we add an appeals process?
The idea of a single person with unilateral control over such a group,
without taking into consideration the needs and desires of the group,
does not seem fair.  I believe that there is need for recourse in this
community for a person who is  removed or censored unfairly.


Chris Malayter
TDS Telecom - Network Services
Network Management and Operations
[email protected]
Phone: (608) 664-4878
FAX:	(608) 664-4644

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