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Re: Cisco moves even more to china.

  • From: Daniel Roesen
  • Date: Fri Sep 24 11:16:20 2004

On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 10:45:01AM -0400, Drew Weaver wrote:
> I just find the whole idea of Cisco amusing, they still sell new
> 7500 series routers for 6 figures with the right configurations, and
> they've been around for 10 years, in what other industry can you take a
> product that is a decade old, hasn't advanced in technology, and still
> sell them new for $100,000?

You're asking the wrong question, and with wrong basis. 7500 platform
has evolved significantly over time. Think about RSP1, and *IP
linecards, all with centralized RSP-based process/fast switching.
Nowadays you have z-Chassis, RSP16, VIP8, PAs, with distributed CEF.
Also, you have a large range of interfaces available, even somewhat
exotic ones. And you can still use the old *IP linecards without
having to make too many compromises (you'll lose some features on
those *IP based interfaces, and dCEF from/to them).

I'm seeing a lot of RSP4/VIP[24] based 7507/7513 still in nice use,
basically unchanged in terms of upgrades since around five years. I
can think of very few products in the ISP network device industry which
do survive such a long usable life cycle, shifting nicely from the
very "high-speed" core down to access/pop-in-a-box applications and
still run code (12.2S) which has almost all of today's technical
bells and whistles.

The 7500 line is clearly an outstanding example of what kind of gear
the industry needs. IMHO, said by a known Cisco anti-fan. YMMV.

> Although admittedly most sensible people buy them on ebay for a
> grand these days.

Yup.


Regards,
Daniel