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Re: Cisco moves even more to china.

  • From: Dan Mahoney, System Admin
  • Date: Thu Sep 23 20:32:08 2004

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Erik Haagsman wrote:

I've always personally taken anyone who said "but I'm an MCSE" with a grain of salt. I've had equal respect for the A-plus and Net-Plus certifications, which are basically bought.

I used to have more trust in the /CC../ certifications but I find I may be laughing those off too quite soon.

MCSE - Microsoft-claimed Substitute for Experience.
A-Plus - The only possible grade in a pass/fail test.
Net-Plus - An accounting term for "how can we net more money with this bull**** certification"

Not one of the above properly teaches you how to run, say, DNS correctly (my opinions on the Active Directory DNS butchery notwithstanding).

I'm sure in time I'll come up with others sometime after I have to argue with green CC.. people who think the paper makes them infallible and prove them wrong with a 20-second search of cisco.com.






Hmm..we're flooded by CCNA's and CCNP's that often hardly know how logon
to a router as it is, so this will probably add a lot more, a bit like
the MCSE craze a few years ago ;-)
When they say training thousands of students, they're not talking
thousands of CCIE-level specialists that actually know what they're
doing.
If anything it looks like we should feel sorry for people working
production for Cisco since it looks like production will be completely
based in China in the not too far future.

Cheers,

Erik

On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 01:49, Nicole wrote: 

 Lovely, Just lovely. Just heard On CNN, Lou Dobbs. (but can't find it on
their site)

 During a Beijing news conference John Chambers (Cisco CEO) Says "We believe in
giving something back and truly becoming a Chineese company."  "China will
become the IT center or the world" "China will become the largest economy in the
world."

 CNN Reports: Cisco is investing 32 Million into Changi and is training
10's of thousands of Chineese university students in Cisco technology.


 So.. I guess we will be cranking out those H1b's...Plan to kiss your raises
and or jobs bye bye to some specialized cheap imported Cisco trained networking
person from China.


*SIGH*


Nicole


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