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Re: The worst abuse e-mail ever, sverige.net

  • From: Jeff Wheeler
  • Date: Tue Sep 21 20:08:22 2004

I'll admit to not knowing too much about this project, but what you are describing sounds similar in part to the Network Admission Control that Cisco is pushing - an automated way of ensuring user machines are protected before being admitted on to the network.

Here is a link to their site on the subject:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns466/ networking_solutions_white_paper0900aecd800fdd66.shtml

- Jeff


On Sep 21, 2004, at 6:00 PM, james edwards wrote:



The port 25 blocking seemed like a real good idea.

-M


I disagree. Port blocking does not change user behavior & it is user
behavior that is causing this problem.
Blocking just hides it. I used to believe in port blocking as the solution
to many user problems but now I have 3 and 4 page ACL's
on my border routers. This does not scale. Yes, I could push this out via
radius to the NAS but again this does not solve the problem.
I feel blocking just pushes us closer to ports loosing their uniqueness, as
we have seen with PTP filesharing.

The solution I am working toward is quickly identifying user infections. We
are almost there. I collect and record
all traffic from the users going to dark space and am almost finished with
the system that will identify who held that
IP at a specific time. It is all in SQL so that is easy. We already have a
system in place where users, after multiple virus problems,
must obtain protection software prior to being re-enabled. Ramping up the
amount of proof we have at hand will allow us to enforce
our existing AUP.

The key to changing a behavior is to create consequences to this behavior. I
have noticed we never have problems getting
a user to get virus/firewall software after they pay to have their box
disinfected. Hit the users first with e-mails, then phone contact,
ending with being shut off should create the consequences needed to change
their behavior.

james