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Paul Vixie <[email protected]> wrote: [...] > however, and this is the important part so everybody please pay > attention, if you can junk something "without hesitation," then > spammers will stop sending that kind of "something." they make their > money on clickthroughs, final sales, and referrals, which translates > to one thing and one thing only: "volume." if the way to keep their > volume up means "put SPF metadata in for the domains they use" or > even just "stop forging mail from domains that have SPF metadata" > then that is exactly what they will do. guaranteed. Cool, fewer double-bounces implicating me as the source of spam. I'll take that, ta. [...] > i lost that bet during my MAPS years. your mileage may vary, but to > me, SPF is just a way to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic. Well, I for one would really really like to thank you for the MAPS RBL. It may not have been a permanent solution, but it made the difference while it still worked. If ever you have the misfortune to find yourself in this arse end of Britain, please do claim a pint ;) > we won't have decent interpersonal batch digital communications > again before whitelists; everything we do in the mean time is just a > way to prove that to the public so they'll be willing to live with > the high cost of fully distributing trust. As a poor bastard who seems to be BOFHing for an ISP "fixing" mail, I can only hope that the future comes up with good ideas in the future that will help with the tsunami. Given the 400% increase in spam that we've seen hitting our "spam solution" in the last 3 months, anything that can make the difference is welcome. For the long term, I really don't know what to do. Becoming a Knuthian email hermit is tempting given I'm getting awfully close to the 15 years myself... -- PGP key ID E85DC776 - finger [email protected] for full key
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