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> > I guess the big question is, is there anyone (other than those > > profiting directly from CWS) that would complain if a provider were to > > do such a thing... > ... > It's the old: "I don't want some plumber deciding what can come down my > pipe" argument. that analogy won't stretch to fit the situation of internet services. for one thing, plumbers aren't the same as water companies. for another, the water company is responsible for what i receive, but only the sewage company is responsible for what i send. i think that at a minimum, we need better analogies, or we need to learn how to talk about this subject without using analogies. i suppose that from the malfeasant's point of view, the current internet economic and irresponsibility model is scaling just fine. people who want to do bad things can keep on doing them, and profitting from them. people who want to supply the services necessary for these bad things can keep doing so, and keep profitting from them. people who would need to take some kind of responsibility or action in order to prevent this activity don't want to be seen taking any responsibility or action, supposedly out of fear that they'll be held liable for everything they DIDN'T stop. it strikes me that the case for revolution is largely a cost:benefit analysis, and that we're headed for a timespace where some very radical solutions are actually cheaper than the status quo. (i say this even while considering the MAPS RBL as fundamentally in-band and non-radical for its time.) -- Paul Vixie
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