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RE: Regional differences in P2P

  • From: Michel Py
  • Date: Fri Jul 16 15:30:07 2004

> Steinar Haug wrote:
> Telenor, the largest Norwegian service provider, capped their
> ADSL customers at a ridiculously low 1 Gbyte/month for a
> while. Presumably they lost sufficient business to other
> (uncapped) providers that they noticed - the cap has now been
> removed.

Ridiculous is the word here. Download two service packs and you're done
for the month? I can understand this happening in Brazil or India, where
caps are a tool to attract enough customers so they bring revenue that
in turn will be re-injected in much needed backbone upgrades, but in
Norway or the US it does not make a lot of sense to me.


>> Michel Py wrote:
>> I agree, but see above: a 40GB/mo cap is not something that
>> I care about. Granted, I'm not a hardcore file swapper but
>> 40GB/mo are more

> Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> I don't know of any capped service over here, nobody dares
> take the first step. The largest 10meg provider here launched
> a new 100 meg full duplex service for their approx 200.000
> household reach at USD$110 a month with a 300G cap (their 10
> meg service for $45 a month is uncapped) and there has been
> a fair amount of users complaining about 300G not being nearly
> enough. When you start swapping DVDRs it just isn't.

There is a need for capping 10 and 100 meg residential though; if you
want to run your 100 Mb/s pipe full all the time it represents 26TB per
month in each direction; you can't give 2/3rds of an OC-3 to a customer
for $110/mo. A 300GB/mo cap means that the customer is using their line
an average of 1.15%, which brings the interesting question of what a
reasonable speed/cap ration should be.

  1.5 Mb/s =    389 GB/mo
 10   Mb/s =  2.6   TB/mo
100   Mb/s = 26     TB/mo

Speed/cap ratios:
  1.5 Mb/s capped at   1 GB/mo = 0.25% ridiculous IMHO
 10   Mb/s capped at  40 GB/mo = 1.54%
100   Mb/s capped at 300 GB/mo = 1.15%

Thoughts, anyone?

Michel.