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Re: Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

  • From: Matthew Crocker
  • Date: Tue Jun 29 12:21:37 2004 
On Jun 29, 2004, at 12:02 PM, Brad Passwaters wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:45:40 -0400, Matthew Crocker <[email protected]> wrote:

The TRO is irrelevant, The courts made the wrong decision, did anyone
actually think they would have a clue?

Here is the solution:
Perhaps before proposing a solution we should make sure that all the facts
are in evidence. I might suggest since at least some of the legal documents
are available to you at the url below you take time to read them.

http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/nac-case/

Its not clear at all that what the courts are proposing is that the customer be
allowed to keep the addresses forever, just that they have adequate time
for an orderly move. Its also not clear that NAC won't receive comensatation
for use of their resources. I think those people who have done service provider
moves realize that without the help of their old service provider
their life could
well be hellish. If the requirements for the lack of IP portability are indeed
purely technical and not some effort to hold onto customers then service
providers have a duty to make almost any reasonable effort to make the
transition as painless as possible
From my understanding the customer has their own IP space allocated by ARIN and has had that space for over a year. They have already had adequate time to transition to their own space. The Internet routing table should not suffer due to the laziness of one customer. I can see if NAC kicked the customer off their network the *may* have a case.

Maybe CYMRU could add the netblock to their bogon route servers with a different community. Then ISPs could choose to black hole as desired.

Black holing is a drastic step but I think decisive action needs to be taken the Internet at large to protect the routing table. I know I would *love* to gain ownership of some of my space I have from Sprint. I'm too lazy to move out of that space but I do continue to by bandwidth from Sprint (have been doing so for 10 years now). If this holds up, maybe I'll try and sue Sprint ;) *this is a joke.... I'm not that irresponsible to the 'net*