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RE: Can a customer take IP's with them?

  • From: Jess Kitchen
  • Date: Wed Jun 23 12:00:11 2004

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Andy Dills wrote:

> Actually, I don't think that's the case. ARIN still owns the numbers, NAC
> is just leasing them. Therefore, ARINs rules supercede anything
> contractual between NAC and the customer.

I may be missing the point here, but the address space in question is
probably of a PA status as opposed to PI - hence they are deemed
non-portable in the first instance.

Given that the customer has had an alternative block and been given more
than reasonable time to renumber I would say that the ball is firmly in
Alex's court - not his fault if they can't get their sh*t together.

Just thinking, the easiest way forward might be to simply to refuse to
deaggregate on the basis of "the good of the Internet" - ignoring any
multihomers that NAC may have out of their aggregates, for the sake of
argument.

Additionally according to the size of the block and filtering, 8001 will
probably up transiting the traffic anyway with no commercial agreement in
place, which is obviously unacceptable.

I'd dig out initial contract(s) with the customer, as if there was no
clause there specifically outlining ownership of address space (yes, I
know the concept is a fallacy) then you could go with whatever ARIN
recommendation was in force at the time.

I had some space from way back when which I think was previous to these
sort of issues with regard to portability ('94-95), culminating in a
letter from the RIR involved saying words to the effect of "you should
return the address space for aggregation reasons, but legally you don't
have to"

Regards,
Jess.

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