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Re: "Default" Internet Service (was: Re: Points on your Internetdriver's license)

  • From: Owen DeLong
  • Date: Sun Jun 13 12:22:27 2004

I fully expect my ISP to turn me off if my site starts spewing abuse. However,
until that happens, I expect my ISP to deliver any valid IP datagram destined
for me, and, I expect to them to deliver any valid IP datagram I send out,
at least to the next AS in the path to the destination.

If they turn me off for spewing abuse, I expect them to immediately contact
me and provide as much information as they have about the nature of the
problem. I think expect that it is my responsibility to identify and correct
the problem, notify my ISP, and wait a reasonable amount of time (possibly
as much as 24-48 hours) for them to turn me back on.

So far, this hasn't been a problem.

Owen


--On Saturday, June 12, 2004 9:54 PM -0400 John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:

The real challenge here is that the "default" Internet service is
wide-open Internet Protocol, w/o any safeties or controls.   This
made a lot of sense when the Internet was a few hundred sites,
but is showing real scaling problems today (spam, major viruses,
etc.)

One could imagine changing the paradigm (never easy) so that
the normal Internet service was proxied for common applications
and NAT'ed for everything else...  This wouldn't eliminate all the
problems, but would dramatically cut down the incident rate.

If a site wants wide-open access, just give it to them.  If that turns
out to cause operational problems (due to open mail proxies, spam
origination, etc), then put 'em back behind the relays.

/John

--
If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.

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