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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, John Curran wrote: > > At 4:21 AM +0000 6/13/04, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > > >We have methods of dealing with these abuse problems today, unfortanately > >as Paul Vixie often points out there are business reasons why these > >problems persist. Often the 'business' reason isn't the > >tin-foil-hat-brigade's reason so much as 'we can't afford to keep these > >abuse folks around since they don't make money for the company'. > > I'll argue that we have don't effective methods of dealing with this today, > and it's not the lack of abuse desk people as much as the philosophy of > closing barn doors after the fact. The idea that we can leave everything > wide open for automated exploit tools, and then clean up afterwards > manually with labor-intensive efforts is fundamentally flawed. that was the last part of my post, initial installs and supportable (end user supportable) security really is the only way. (or that's my thoughts)
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