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BTW - in the email it meant to be just stand DOS (Original IBM PC Operating System based on CP/M), I automaticly write small "o" now when using this word because of how I've used it in the last sevaral years On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, william(at)elan.net wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Michel Py wrote: > > > > > William, > > > > > william(at)elan.net wrote: > > > [http://www.cymru.com/BGP/bogon-rs.html] > > > Unfortunetly this is kind-of a bgp hack and as has > > > been already mentioned it needs very carefull > > > implemention > > > > This is not positive thinking. I don't consider this a hack (if it is, > > then the draft that proposes to re-use ORF mechanisms is even worse). > Quite a bit of difference I think, ORF is almost perfect fit for it. > > You seem to think that when I say its a hack it necessarily means its a > very bad thing. Not at all, I use(d) hacks in DoS, Windows, PalmOS, Linux, > etc. all the time. Hacks often lead to real feature in the OS or program > in the future, which is hopefully what will happen here. > > > I'm not interested in what things were designed to do, I'm interested in > > what things _can_ do. > > > > I use [Cymru] myself as I am within the applicability domain. I use your > > stuff too. However, you might be borderline to abusing co-author > > privileges here; Team Cymru has lead the route-server project for long, > Nobody is disputing their longterm efforts in this area. > > > and although the bogon list is by nature a lot less controversial than > > what you do the bottom line is the acceptance of Cymru's feed is far > > greater than Completewhois. > There is no feed from completewhois to even try to compare at this time. > (you can compare dns feed, but that is slightly different). And when > there is it might different purpose and one might better in one situation > or the other. > > > Please don't use draft-py-idr-redisfilter-01.txt as a platform to > > compete with other co-authors; collaborative competition is sound, > > please stay within its borders. > I dont really compete with other authors at all, in fact its not even > easily possible as completewhois does not even provide production BGP feed > at this time. And I don't intend to make this into some kind or race > in the future either - the lists are different and have slightly different > levels of activity they are trying to protect from. > > And going OT here, I really do not see a problem with two or more > implementations, we have this at many levels and reality is that it > actually leads to highier degree of innovation. As an example I'm quite > happy that there is both FreeBSD and Linux or both Gnome and K-Desktop. > (although wars between proponents of one of the other can sometimes be a > bit disturbing). Its too bad on the other hand we only have one "Windows".
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