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Seeing as this system would directly impact network operators (the NO in naNOg) I must disagree. If Merit's staff feels otherwise then I sincerely apologize and will of course move the discussion, I will limit the out of context chatter to a minimum however. Tthorpe opusnet > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:00 PM > To: Tim Thorpe > Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes > Subject: Re: Anti-spam System Idea > > This topic has been consistently ruled off-topic for NANOG by > Merit's staff. > Please respect those of us who don't want to hear about spam here. > > For those interested, the IRTF's ASRG is actively studying > anti-spam techniques and I'm sure they'd be interested in > hearing all of your ideas (after you verify they haven't been > tried before). > http://www.irtf.org/charters/asrg.html > > S > > Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart > CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves with > K5SSS smart people who disagree with them." --Aaron Sorkin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Thorpe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, 14 February, 2004 02:30 > Subject: Anti-spam System Idea > > > > > > I wanted to run this past you to see what you thought of it > and get some > > feedback on pro's and cons of this type of system. > > > > I have been thinking recently about the ever increasing > amount of spam > that > > is flooding the internet, clogging mail servers, and in > general pissing us > > all off. > > > > I think it time to do something about it. very few systems > are effective > at > > blocking spam at the server level, and the ones that exist > have a less > then > > stellar reputation and are not very effective on top of that. > > > > 95% of spam comes through relays and its headers are forged > tracking an > > E-mail back that you've received is becoming next to > impossible, its also > > very time consuming and why waste your time on scumbags? > > > > my idea; > > a DC network that actively scans for active relays and > tests them, it > > compiles a list on a daily basis of compromised IP > addresses (or even > > addresses that are willingly allowing the relay) making > this list freely > > available to ISPs via a secure and tracked site. > > > > to test a relay you actually have to send mail through it, I have a > solution > > for this as well, the clients are set to e-mail a certain > address that > > changes daily the E-mails are signed with a crypto key to verify > > authenticity (that way spammers can't abuse the address if > it doesn't have > > the key, it get canned) > > > > work with ISP's to correct issues on their network help > completely black > > list IP's from their network that are operating as an open relay and > > redirect to a page that alerts them of the compromise and > solutions to fix > > the problem. the only way people are going to become aware > of security > > issues such as this is if something happens that wakes them > up, if they > > can't access a % of the web it would hopefully clue them in. > > > > because these scans only need to take place once per IP per > day and over a > > large distribution of computers performing the tests, I > don't see network > > load becoming a big issue, no bigger then it currently is. > > > > the only way to fight spammers is to squeeze them out of hiding, and > that's > > what I hope this system would be designed to do. > > > > I do not have the coding knowledge to do this I will need > coders, I do > have > > the PR skills to work with ISPs. I am also working with my > congresswoman > to > > pave the way for legal clearance for this program. > > > > I would greatly appreciate your input on this and anything > I may have > > overlooked. I would also like to know if this would be a DC > program you > > would run. > > > > a lot of people argue the practical application of DC. > although we know > > differently this project would show them what DC can do for > them and wake > > them up to perhaps other DC projects. > > > > >
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